Monday, September 26, 2005

". . . Not that there's anything wrong with that."

As you know, I'm an atheist and don't believe in God. However, that doesn't mean I'm entirely opposed to religion, though I don't believe in religion either. If someone wants to believe in a supreme being, more power to them. However, sometimes, people take it to the realm of asinie stupidity, too. I know why: they are being told what to believe from the pulpit and they don't consider for themselves whether or not what they are told has merit in the real world.

I'm not gay but I have gay friends, "not that there's anything wrong with that." (New cliche in the straight world, friends.) I think we're trying not to offend gays for some reason. Maybe they've had enough offense. I'm sure they have, frankly. Some of my gay friends have horrendous stories of their mistreatment at the hands of really macho men who, in some cases, happen to be religious, as well.

That said, I don't oppose the "gay movement" but I don't support it, either except from a viewpoint of treating human beings like, well, like human beings. I'm pretty neutral on the actual subject of "gayness" frankly.

This morning, a very good Christian friend sent me some letters to the editor. Here are some of my thoughts on those letters. The letters are prefaced with "LTE" and my comments are prefaced by "--Wag--".

--Wag--

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> Three great Letters to the Editor

LTE The American cesspool

As far as I am concerned, there is no mystery at all why the American Civil Liberties Union is trying to get the Ten Commandments removed from all public places. They don't want future generations growing up to have any idea of God's moral code.

The pagan liberals in our society are unwilling to alter their behavior for the sake of anyone, including God and his truth. Their demand for the "freedom" to do anything one darn well pleases regardless of whether it is right or wrong has multiplied the pain in our society so greatly.

--Wag-- Clearly, "right" and "wrong" have not been defined to everyone's satisfaction. That's why we have the wars we do. Also, Pagans are a "to each his own" and "harm no other" kind of people, regardless of the bad press they've received from various religions over the past few millenia. To lump them with liberals does them a disservice and gives liberals more credit than they deserve! (Yes, I still love my liberal friends, too!)

LTE I used to wonder how a society could have become so bad at the time of Sodom and Gomorrah that homosexual bands would go through the streets demanding that strangers in town be released to them for the purpose of homosexual rape. I can see now how a society could decline into that kind of cesspool. I think it's possible that it could happen again in our world.

Marilyn Brenden

--Wag-- Sodom and Gomorrah. Personally, I don't believe the story as being factual, but supposing it were, it was 4,000 years ago or thereabouts, right? Since then, no other cities have been similarly condemned. Also, I'm not seeing a pattern here which would lead me to believe that any such city on earth is in jeopardy of having "homosexual bands" roving the streets demanding sex from anyone. And don't use the gay pride parades as an example of said implied "roving." Those parades are of gays wanting sexual expression with each other, not everyone else.

LTE Agree ... or else!

The homosexual agenda is not equal rights - it's special rights, pure and simple. There is nothing equal to it. Equality allows equal members to disagree. Dictatorship says some people are more special than others.

--Wag-- Affirmative Action is "special rights." The only special rights gays have had over the years is their rights to be tread upon and treated as less than human. In other words, they've had less rights than anyone else for a very long time now.

Anyone who believes that gays are NOT human, raise their hand. Anyone who believes that Jesus' love does not extend to gays, raise your hand. Anyone who believes Buddha or Allah hates gays and thinks of them as nothing more than animals, raise your hand. Get the idea? God isn't hating gays, insofar as I can tell. But certain other people are.

LTE For instance, my relationship with my husband allows me to disagree with him, and him me. I can reject certain of his beliefs, and he won't divorce me for it.

Ask Rolf Szabo how equal he feels to homosexuals now after getting fired from Kodak just because he refused to agree.

The homosexual agenda says, "Agree with our views or else."

Dorothy McGrath

--Wag-- This is the epitome of hypocrisy. I'm amazed that any Christian could even write such a thing and thereby admit that they are blinded by their own absurdity. For as long as I can remember, Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. have all said, "Believe as we do, or else you're going to burn in hell." It's tantamount to saying, "If you don't believe as we do, god is going to torture you for the rest of forever." I think I can rest my case with Ms. McGrath.

LTE Don't support them

I think the article Joe Kovacs wrote about companies supporting immoral practices was overdue. (I realize you have been reporting on the subject for years.)

I think the best way to fight these policies is to not buy products from companies that support immorality, to not work directly as an employee of such a company, and to invest in companies that only support traditional marriage by their policies.

Brian Wood

--Wag-- Go ahead!!! My prices will go down and though unemployment will go up for a while, it will decrease when self-righteous people have to go to work for evil companies in order to feed and shelter their families.

--Wag-- An anecdote you may appreciate: A friend of mine went to her employer to ask if they had domestic partner benefits, ie., health insurance coverage for her boyfriend. The company said, "Yes, but only if the couple is same-sex." How's that for "reverse discrimination?"

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dutch shock over gay AIDS rape gang
May 31, 2007 01:01 PM US/Eastern

A gay gang that allegedly raped victims lured on the Internet, drugged them and infected them with the AIDS virus has shocked the Netherlands and raised questions over its liberal sex culture.

Health Minister Ab Klink on Thursday called the case "horrible", as the press splashed the news across its front pages.

The matter came to light Wednesday, when police said they had arrested three seropositive homosexual men two weeks ago after four victims, men aged 25 to 50, accused them of rape and premeditated bodily harm.

Ronald Zwarter, the police chief in the northern town of Groningen, where the alleged crimes took place, said two of those arrested, a couple aged 48 and 33, had confessed.

"Their stated motive was that it excited them -- and also that, the more HIV-infected people there were, the better their chances of unprotected sex," he said.

"They considered unprotected relations to be 'pure'."

A fourth man who allegedly supplied the three suspects with several litres of the date-rape drug GHB and ecstasy tablets was also arrested.

The gang risks up to 16 years in prison.

According to police and prosecutors, eight more victims have come forward since the case was publicised.

Officials said the three seropositive men invited gays contacted on the Internet to private homosexual orgies.

When the victims turned up, they were allegedly given ecstasy and GBH (which is undetectable when mixed in drinks), leaving them helpless and, in some cases, with no memory of what happened.

The three suspects -- one of whom is a male nurse -- were said to have raped the men, and even injected some of them with a mix of their contaminated blood.

The case has deeply unsettled the Netherlands, and caused it to cast a hard look at its easygoing views on sex, with some figures suggesting that frequent homosexual orgies posed a public health risk.

"That homos organise orgies is nothing new, but this is something else. This is unimaginable," said Frank van Dalen, the president of a gay rights group called COC.

He stressed that the illegal use of GHB (gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid) -- known on the street by such nicknames as "Easy Lay, "Gay Home Boy" and "Liquid Ecstasy" -- also posed a danger in heterosexual circles.

Said Henk Krol, the editor of a homosexual magazine titled Gaykrant: "These people were drugged, it's therefore rape, pure and simple. It's shameful, disgusting and terrifying. Those who did this are crazy."

Health officials pointed to a recent rise in the number of HIV infections in Groningen -- from 14 in 2005 to 25 last year, out of the town's total population of 185,000 -- as significant.

"This doesn't mean that the rise is entirely explained by the orgies... but it's probable that part of the rise has been caused by them," Marco Ter Harmsel, of Grongingen's municipal health service, told the Dutch newspaper DRC.

Wag said...

Mr. or Mrs. Anonymous posted the above comment with the article which, I'm assuming, is supposed to be an indictment of gays as if these people perpetrated their crimes BECAUSE they were gay.

If sexuality is the determining factor then, therefore, all crime committed by heterosexual people is because of their sexuality, therefore, we should hate and persecute all straight people.

I suppose this is yet another illustration of how narrow-minded people can be.

--Wag--